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Don Smith VETERAN TRUTHSEEKER

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Posted: Thu May 24, 2012 9:33 pm Post subject: The Orwell Diversion |
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greanvillepost.comhttp://www.greanvillepost.com/2012/05/22/the-orwell-diversion/#more-34804
The Orwell Diversion
by Alex Carey
In the nineteenth century Matthew Arnold described the aim of literature as to perceive life ‘steadily’ and ‘as a whole’. In the twentieth century the social sciences have challenged this traditional role of poets and writers as the most influential source of enquiry and reflection upon human life and values. It is my contention that the producers of our social science have largely abandoned Arnold’s goal. In consequence all of us now see the world more unsteadily than we need and, in a double sense, in a manner more partial and fragmented.
I would argue that the abandonment of an interconnected view of the community is deeper and more dangerous than ever before. Its cause is not due to a natural inevitability but is held in place, almost artificially, by the bitter divisions of our world. This predilection for division, a division which maintains a binary morality of them and us, finds its traditional expression in the terms ‘communist’ and ‘anti-communist’. I would suggest that this division has become a kind of global disease that scars and corrupts the best and most humane aspects of our liberal Western traditions.
The communist craze has been created and sustained for so long that we are in danger of believing in it – believing for instance, that we should take George Orwell’s warning about 1984 seriously. Orwell warned that a crude and brutal totalitarianism would come from the left of politics and subvert the liberal democratic freedoms we are all supposed to enjoy. Such a prospect is no more than part of the communist craze of the twentieth century, for while the freedoms of liberal democracy are certainly threatened, the danger has always come from the Respectable Right. It has come in the form of widespread social and political indoctrination, an indoctrination which promotes business interests as everyone’s interests and in the process fragments the community and closes off individual and critical thought.
…I believe that George Orwell’s warnings about future threats to liberal democracies were largely, even dangerously misconceived. Influenced by Orwell’s erroneous views, popular consciousness has been drilled in the expectation that the subversive Left, supported by influences from ‘outside’ the country, is about to control public and individual thinking. (This is the corporate sponsored narrative which provides the justification needed for managing democracy in the interests of business.) Meantime, the real attack is in stark contrast to Orwell’s expectations. It has come, for most of this century, from the Respectable Right. but this actual threat is more or less ignored by the community, for it is vastly sophisticated, appears uncoercive yet is dedicated to corporate interests.
Whatever Orwell’s intentions,his work has been exploited so as to misdirect and confuse the public into looking in the wrong places for the ‘brainwashing’ instinctively felt by many. Ever since World War I this circumstance has so blinded or intimidated the public that few writers and social scientists have attempted to see our world clearly or see it whole in its political-economic dimensions. [Fifty] years after Orwell wrote 1984 no writer has attempted to update it so as to make clear the seriousness of Orwell’s misguidance for democratic societies. Worse still, in the name of free enterprise and anti-communism, a great number of social scientists, sponsored by corporations, are willingly engaged in advancing Orwell’s thesis by way of a corporate-managed democracy.
Alex Carey was an Australian social psychologist and one of the pioneers in the study of corporate propaganda. _________________ " A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends."- Lenin
Patriotism is a manifestation of the Stockholm Syndrome.
"How does it become a man to behave toward this American government to-day? I answer that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it."
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Yuri - MASTER TRUTHSEEKER -

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Posted: Sat May 26, 2012 7:00 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Orwell warned that a crude and brutal totalitarianism would come from the left of politics and subvert the liberal democratic freedoms we are all supposed to enjoy. |
I don't buy this statement nor the overall analysis. This is one more example, IMO, of incorrect use of labels like "left" and "right".
In my book, the authoritarians are on the right - whether they are fascists or communists. The leftists (i.e. the opposite of the authoritarians) are the anarchists (left libertarians).
I really can't see anarchists coming up with the class-based, ultra-authoritarian IngSoc described by Orwell. It's why we need to dump the false prevailing left/right paradigm. There's no place for you and me in that bogus construct except being hemmed into a mushy 'center' where the predatory, war-mongering, privacy-destroying capitalist status quo is merrily preserved and the dead armadillos bake in the sun. _________________
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Don Smith VETERAN TRUTHSEEKER

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Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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Orwell was a man of his time.
When he fought in Spain, he belonged to an anarchist battalion.As time went on Orwell observed how the doctrinaire Communists were taking control of the Republican forces, even arresting members of the Republican forces for not following the party line.
In the thirties, the Communists seemed to be the only ones fighting fascism, a number of people would pay a high price for belonging to "front" organisations of the Commintern.
After the death of Lenin, it was difficult to recognise the Soviet Union as a classic Communist society, civil war, famine, collectivization, all contributed to the Soviet idea of "Communism in one country".
I agree with your statement-In my book, the authoritarians are on the right - whether they are fascists or communists. The leftists (i.e. the opposite of the authoritarians) are the anarchists (left libertarians).
Orwell had the misfortune to see yet another "god that failed". The blinders that many put on toward the dictatorial brand of socialism created by Stalin colored the politics of the future profoundly.
The gist of the article, to me, is of a man caught up in his wishes to the exclusion of facts. _________________ " A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends."- Lenin
Patriotism is a manifestation of the Stockholm Syndrome.
"How does it become a man to behave toward this American government to-day? I answer that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it."
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Yuri - MASTER TRUTHSEEKER -

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I get your drift regarding Orwell vs. Communism, Don. I just don't agree with Carey's assertion that today's leftists are, somehow, aligned more closely with Stalinists than with Nazis/fascists - and, by inference, pose a latent danger to liberty.
From the anarchist POV, any movement, government, or political philosophy that has charismatic leaders and a rigid, top-down hierarchy is operating on the right wing side of the libertarian-authoritarian spectrum.
I throw this out as a poll question to the members of this forum:
In the prevailing (and, I believe, bogus) Communism-on-the-left and Fascism-on- the-right paradigm, where exactly is Capitalism supposed to figure in the equation? - bearing in mind that the "free market" is as mythical as pixie dust. _________________
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Don Smith VETERAN TRUTHSEEKER

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Posted: Sun Jun 03, 2012 11:24 am Post subject: |
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Carey is caught in a myth. This myth has colored U.S. popular opinion since the days of the Palmer raids. The myth is by design, limiting the spectrum of political analysis to an ever more constricted and controlable set.
The association of tyranny with communism/socialism/anarchy has been succesful to such a degree that I meet few people able to tell me the difference.
Newspeak in action. _________________ " A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends."- Lenin
Patriotism is a manifestation of the Stockholm Syndrome.
"How does it become a man to behave toward this American government to-day? I answer that he cannot without disgrace be associated with it."
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