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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: See ya later folks. Reply with quote

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The Mike Malloy discussion board moderators will not allow be to bump my posts to prevent deletion. They locked my posts which was a rather rude way to let me know. So I have stopped posting since my index on fascism and all other posts will also be deleted. I completed backing up my posts so as not to lose my research. I made the false assumption that a liberal discussion board would be more friendly to my interests and would help in this project.


I'm not sure what exactly what is going on with the threads being locked but if you have any threads that are important or even an large thread on fascism you want to save let us know and we can move it to the library. You can even add additional posts to your existing ones there as well. Just let me or one of the other mods know. Its one of the reasons we created the library in case you didn't know.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Re: See ya later folks. Reply with quote

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The Mike Malloy discussion board moderators will not allow be to bump my posts to prevent deletion. They locked my posts which was a rather rude way to let me know. So I have stopped posting since my index on fascism and all other posts will also be deleted. I completed backing up my posts so as not to lose my research. I made the false assumption that a liberal discussion board would be more friendly to my interests and would help in this project.



You currently have six threads in the Library. If you have other "research" work threads that you would like moved, you or anybody else could request that move by simply contacting a mod.

In the Library, you or anybody else can add content to that thread. And if needed, you or anybody else can "bump" a thread with no questions asked.
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PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my links and posts have already been deleted.

Critiques of Fascism...

Prof. Umberto Eco's 14 Characteristics of Eternal Fascism.

1945 U.S. War Department Army Talk Fact Sheet 64: Fascism

"What Fascism Is and Isn't ," by Glen Yeadon: A historical study of the Third Reich.

American Corporations Supported Hitler-Nazi Buildup.

George W. Bush, The NeoCons, & The Nazis: Ties That Bind

Neo-Christian Social Fascism.

Rush, Newspeak and Fascism: An exegesis by David Neiwert.

Christian "Fascimentalism."

The Psychology of Christian Fundamentalism And Authoritarian Personality.

Sexual Roots of the Christian Fundamentalist Psyche.

Honor Roll of Christo-Fascist Perverts

Rev. Billy Graham's last Public Fascist Rally.

NeoCon Michael Ledeen--apologist for Italian Fascism.

Viva Fascismo:"Fascism is Capitalism Plus Murder."Upton Sinclair

China Envy: A Failed Economic System?

Nazi Leaders, Theism, and Family Values

Two myths about Hitler's and Mussolini's brands of fascism.

Nazis and the Righteous Right.

"The Concept of Propaganda," by Joseph Goebbels (1934)

Hitler's Shadow and the Coming Storm

The resienstadt: Hitler's Dystopia and America's Gitmo.

Bush's radio speech sounds like Nazi propaganda posters

History of gays in Nazi Germany and Militant Homophobia.

NeoFascist Cultural Revolution in America

Blowback: America's recruitment of Nazis

FDR Warns of "...economic royalists."

The Danger of American Fascism by Henry Wallace
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Studies on Nazism...

Totalitarian Decisionism & Human Rights:The Re-emergence of Nazi Law

First Nazi Targets--the unpopular and then...

Hitler's Theologians: Gerhard Kittel, Paul Althaus, and Emmanuel Hirsch.

Bush-Hilter have same Philosophy of War: Fake UN Plane Lure.

George Orwell: His Political Views and Inspiration.

Blade Runner: What does it mean to be Human?

American Nazis Plot Failed Coup Against Roosevelt--1933

FACECRIME

Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh,and the Rise of the Nazism

How Hitler outed Commanders before invasions of Europe.

The Nazi Hydra In America: The Pro-Nazis of the 1930s.

Hitler's beliefs placed him on the far right-wing
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wife who killed pastor husband may serve 60 days
POSTED: 2148 GMT (0548 HKT), June 8, 2007

SELMER, Tennessee (AP) -- A woman who killed her preacher husband with a shotgun blast to the back as he lay in bed was sentenced Friday to three years in prison, but she may end up serving only 60 days in a mental hospital.

Mary Winkler must serve 210 days, or about seven months, of her sentence before she can be released on probation, but she gets credit for the five months she has already spent in jail, Judge Weber McCraw said.

That leaves only two months, and McCraw said up to 60 days of the sentence could be served in a facility where she could receive mental health treatment. That means Winkler may not serve any significant time in prison.

Winkler, 33, was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in April and could have received up to six years for killing her husband, Matthew, in the parsonage where the family lived in March 2006.

At her trial she testified she was physically and emotionally abused by her husband, but at her sentencing hearing Friday she said, "I think of Matthew every day, and I'll always miss him and love him."

She pleaded to the judge for leniency, and asked to be reunited with her three daughters, who are now in the custody of Matthew Winkler's parents. The judge denied Winkler's request for full probation or judicial diversion, which would have eventually cleared her record of the conviction.

Prosecutors had sought a murder conviction against Mary Winkler, who they alleged had been trying to keep her husband from learning about a check-kiting scheme. They claimed she had become caught up in a swindle known as the "Nigerian scam," which promises riches to victims who send money to cover the processing expenses.

Winkler, however, testified during her trial that her husband hit and kicked her, forced her to look at pornography and demanded sex she considered unnatural. Jurors were shown a pair of tall, platform shoes and a black wig Winkler said she was pressured to wear during sex.

Matthew Winkler's family said at the sentencing hearing that Mary Winkler's allegations amounted to a second attack on her husband, a popular 31-year-old preacher at the Fourth Street Church of Christ in Selmer.

"The monster that you have painted for the world to see? I don't think that monster existed," said Matthew Winkler's mother, Diane Winkler.

When Mary Winkler took the stand, she turned to her husband's family and told them she was "so sorry this has happened." She said she understood they were angry with her and that she prayed every night for them to have peace.

Mary Winkler was arrested a day after shooting her husband. She was found 340 miles away on the Alabama coast, driving the family minivan with her daughters inside.

Diane Winkler testified that the girls, ages 9, 7 and 2, were having nightmares about people with guns breaking into their house.

"You've never told your girls you're sorry. Don't you think you at least owe them that?" she asked.

Mary Winkler's sister, Tabitha Freeman, asked the judge to give her a chance to be reunited with her children, and called her "the best example of a good person I can think of."

"She just needs them. She's not complete without them," Freeman said.


Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2007/LAW/06/08/winkler.sentence.ap/index.html

Given the relatively light sentence, one can surmise that the court believed some (if not all) of Mary Winkler's testimony.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's ask her husband his side of the story.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yuri wrote:
Given the relatively light sentence, one can surmise that the court believed some (if not all) of Mary Winkler's testimony.

So this is what passes for justice in America? Speaking as a woman, I think this sentence is outrageous, nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

Do you know why Mary Winkler and her husband were having martial difficulties? It had nothing to do with viewing porn, or being forced to wear a black wig during sex. It had to do with Mary blowing at least $17,500 in a Nigerian e-mail scam. As her defense attorney, Steve Farese said, "They were always kind of living on the edge of their budget, so I'm sure this would have just wrecked their budget." No sh!t, Sherlock.

I'll tell you that if I had a husband who had kited $17,500 in checks to an overseas scam without involving me in the decision, he'd never hear the end of it either. She's damn lucky her husband didn't pick up the shotgun and shoot her in the back. What's this BS about ". . . mostly my fault, bad bookkeeping"?

And now she wants to be reunited with the kids -- "She just needs them -- she's not complete without them." Screw her, she just killed their father. IMO she not only needs to have the kids taken from her, society needs to ensure that she can't have any more of them.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 8:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is amazing is the degree of secrecy they handled this case. Cases involving fundamentalists are kept low profile. Typically the initial crime was widely reported with no details. She was guarded by the authorities and information tightly controlled.

The Bay Area murder of Laci Peterson by her husband Scott Peterson was television for over a year. The news coverage was astounding! We know everything about him, his sex life, his finances, his childhood, his job, his marriage, and his dirty pool and that he sold his house and was resold.....ect. ect. It was total saturation. Coverage is stilling popping up about his life in prison and the letters he gets. Amazing. It won't end.

This is another example of preferential treatment like Paris Hilton. The police and courts were protecting a religious sect and their own identification with the defendant's class and beliefs. They finished the job by using the victim to rescue the pastor's wife. It's like the Catholic church protecting pedophiles. They are very holy people.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reserve comment on the sentence. I didn't attend the trial, and didn't follow it closely enough to pass my own judgment. None of which changes the fact that we're presented with another example of a supposedly pious Christian proselytizer who, from all appearances, was an extreme hypocrite.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RedRadar wrote:
It had nothing to do with viewing porn, or being forced to wear a black wig during sex.

Yeah, that black wig thing is disgusting... Red wig I could appreciate, but black?



On the other hand, maybe I'm too quick to judge... Cool
(Yes, I know that Cassandra Peterson is really a redhead.)



(WOOF! I'd like to haunt her crypt... Unless Teri Garr was available...)
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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RedRadar wrote:
It had nothing to do with viewing porn, or being forced to wear a black wig during sex.

Yeah, that black wig thing is disgusting... Red wig I could appreciate, but black?

Even if that happened, that seems so mild to me, just a little sexual experimentation to keep the martial sex interesting . . . certainly not a contributing factor to murder.


BA, if one is forced to wear a wig, why not have it both ways? Wink
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Isn't that what Ru Paul said?
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Official accused. SBI: Cabarrus' Privette met with woman at motel in May and June
VICTORIA CHERRIE AND SHARIF DURHAMS
vcherrie@charlotteobserver.com sdurhams@charlotteobserver.com

Coy Privette, in a photo taken for the most recent Cabarrus County Board of Commissioners. Pictured lower right is Tiffany Denise Summers.

COY PRIVETTE

Age: 74.

Residence: Kannapolis.

Occupation: Retired minister, North Kannapolis Baptist Church.

Elected offices: Cabarrus Board of County Commissioners, 1998-present; N.C. House of Representatives, 1984-92.

Accomplishments: Helped draft a mid-1980s N.C. law that cracked down on pornography and child prostitution; successfully pushed this year to have English adopted as the official language of Cabarrus County.

Family: Wife, Betty; four daughters; 11 grandchildren.

Education: Statesville High School, 1951; Bachelor of Arts, Wake Forest University, 1955; Master of Divinity, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary, 1958.

Civic organizations and other memberships: President, Christian Action League of North Carolina (suspended Thursday); executive committee, Baptist State Convention of North Carolina.


KANNAPOLIS --
Coy Privette, a retired Baptist pastor, conservative lawmaker and outspoken advocate for Christian groups, was charged Thursday with paying a prostitute for sex acts.

The 74-year-old Cabarrus County commissioner was arrested at his home in Kannapolis early Thursday. He appeared before a Rowan County magistrate on six misdemeanor charges and was released on a promise to appear in court Aug. 22. He did not return e-mails or calls to his cell and home phones, and no one answered the door at his Kannapolis home.

Privette, a prominent Republican with a 30-year career, is one of the state's most vocal opponents against alcohol sales and legal gambling. He also serves on the State Baptist Convention of North Carolina and as president of the Christian Action League of North Carolina.

At a news conference in Raleigh late Thursday, the league's executive director announced Privette's suspension as president until his court case is resolved.

"We have a responsibility to reserve judgment," said the Rev. Mark Creech, executive director, "but it's also important to preserve the integrity of this organization."

Milton Hollifield Jr., executive director of the Baptist Convention, said he was unable to reach Privette for an explanation. Nothing has been decided about his role with the organization.

"He has been a faithful and loyal servant to his state and the convention for many years," Hollifield said. "I believe Coy will do the right thing with regards to his responsibilities to the convention."

Suspicious check started probe

Privette was charged with six counts of aiding and abetting or participating in prostitution, said Woody Chavis, interim Kannapolis police chief.The charges stem from a Kannapolis bank contacting police about a suspicious check written off Privette's checking account, Chavis said. The bank also called Privette, who filed a forgery affidavit, Chavis said. The bank reimbursed him and the Police Department began investigating.

Law enforcement sources said a woman had a blank check with Privette's signature. She filled it out for $1,000 but couldn't cash it without an ID, so she asked a friend to do it, the sources said. Another check with Privette's signature, for $4,000, was not cashed, they said.

Chavis said the check investigation led detectives to "illegal activity" in Salisbury.

Kannapolis police called Rowan District Attorney William Kenerly, who asked the State Bureau of Investigation to investigate. Kenerly declined to comment.

Warrants issued by the SBI on Thursday accuse Privette of paying Tiffany Denise Summers, 32, of Salisbury, for sexual acts from May 4 through June 25 in a Salisbury hotel room. A witness listed on the warrants is a narcotics investigator for the Kannapolis Police Department.

Summers was charged with six counts of prostitution, according to the warrants.

The Salisbury Post asked Privette about a possible investigation about two weeks ago, the newspaper reported Thursday. Privette said he lost his wallet at a Salisbury restaurant, and when he got it back two personal checks were missing, according to the newspaper.

Summers has previous convictions for drug possession, prostitution and possessing stolen goods, according to court documents. Last month, Salisbury police officers picked her up near a hotel where rooms are rented by the hour. Salisbury officers have arrested her several times for drug activity, Salisbury Police Chief Mark Wilhelm said. In one case, according to court documents, Summers was found with a man's ATM card.

When contacted by the Observer on Thursday, Summers would only comment on the charges against her, saying: "I don't think it's right."

`Shocked and dismayed'

The forgery complaint is still under investigation by Kannapolis police, Chavis said.

Fellow commissioners had not heard from Privette as of Thursday evening. He initially planned to meet with the county manager Thursday afternoon but changed his mind and left town, Chairman Bob Carruth said.

There is no law requiring a public official who's charged with a crime to resign. If Privette stepped down, a replacement would be chosen by the county's Republican Party, officials said.

Privette has been a member of the board since 1998 and was a member of the state House from 1984 to 1992.

He is a longtime member of North Kannapolis Baptist Church, where he was named a pastor emeritus, a high honor, the Rev. David Prather said.

"We're shocked and dismayed and just concerned for the family -- children, grandchildren, wife -- and trying to reach out to them," he said.

Privette was pastor at the church for 14 years and has been a leader of the men's ministry. The church sponsored Privette and his wife, Betty, on visits to China to teach English as a second language.

"Just as his pastor, I'm trying to reach out to him and his wife and let him know we still love him," Prather said.
Staff writers KytJa Weir, Gail Smith-Arrants and lena warmack and researchers Maria Wygand, Sara Klemmer and Marion Paynter contributed.
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Another week, another conservative Baptist minister embroiled in a sex scandal. In this week's edition of "Pastors Gone Wild" ... a Virginia minister faces indecent exposure and numerous drug and alcohol-related charges. The narrative is quite colorful and reminiscent of a certain Bruce LaBruce film:

Police said 58-year-old Tommy Tester of Bristol, Va. was wearing a skirt when he was arrested last week after allegedly relieving himself in front of children at a car wash.

A report also accuses Tester of offering police officers oral sex and says an open bottle of vodka and empty oxycodone prescription bottle was found in his car when Tester was arrested Friday.

Tester is a well-known Christian radio personality in Virginia and WCYP-TV reports he has "spent the last 24-years working for WZAP, a gospel radio station in Bristol." That radio station issued a "statement asking for prayers and saying Tester has been suspended during an investigation."

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I sounds more like an Al-Qaeda training camp than a Christian Church.
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Local Minister, Helper Charged With Assault.Flowers, Bassitt Allegedly Dragged Girl Behind Van
Sat Aug 11, 2007

BANQUETE, Texas - Authorities charged the director of a Christian boot camp and an employee with dragging a 15-year-old girl behind a van after she fell behind the group during a morning run.

Charles Eugene Flowers and Stephanie Bassitt of San Antonio-based Love Demonstrated Ministries, a 32-day boot camp for at-risk teens, are accused of tying the girl to the van with a rope June 12 and dragging her, according to an arrest affidavit filed Wednesday.

Flowers, the camp's director, ordered Bassitt to run alongside the girl after she fell behind, according to the affidavit. When the girl stopped running, Bassitt yelled at her and pinned her to the ground while Flowers tied the rope to her, according to the affidavit.

The girl was treated for scrapes and bruises on her stomach, legs and arms.

The girl's mother gave investigators photos of her daughter's injuries and a sworn statement from a witness who claimed to have seen the girl dragged on her stomach at least three times.

Flowers and Bassitt remained jailed Saturday on $100,000 bond each on aggravated assault charges.

A call to Love Demonstrated Ministries was not immediately returned Friday. No listing was found for Bassitt. An answering machine at a listing for Flowers cut off during an attempt to leave a message Friday.

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The injures that the victim's mother had photos of were suffered while attending the boot camp, police said, where Flowers served as the self-proclaimed "commandant" and Bassett acted as training assistant.

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Office of Management & Budget website: Partnering with Faith-based and Community Organizations

The San Antonio Weed & Seed Coalition consists of 120 community, neighborhood, and law enforcement organizations whose mission is to reduce drug-related crime and victimization. The coalition has helped to reduce crime in San Antonio by 43.5 percent from 19922000. One of the coalition partners, Love Demonstrated Ministries (LDMI), is a faith-based organization which focuses on youth offenders, gang members, and high risk youth. Over the past three years, 135 of 165 young offenders entering its Life Skills and Parenting Camp have graduated from LDMI, a success rate of 82 percent.

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Commandant Charles Flowers and his wife Janice are the founders and directors of Love Demonssrated Ministries, International (LDMI). Christian Boot Camp (CBC) operates under the oversight of LDMI.

HISTORY

Born in Troy,NC, Charles Flowers joined the military at age eighteen. He went through Basic Training at Lackland Air Force Base in San Antonio and was trained in technical school in Denver, Colorado. His first duty assigment was at Hahn AB, Germany. While in Germany he met Janice who was also a USAF member. They were married and had their first child, Jarrell, while they were in Europe. The family came back to San Antonio in January of 1983 on a special duty assignment to Kelly Air Force Base - Security Hill. He later became a professor military instructor (PME) and served in that capacity until he ended his 12 year military career in November of 1991. Throughout his military career Charles considered what: leadership training, discipline, and spiritual training could do for those in their teens years. A desire to initiate a ministry with that focus led him out of the military to a staff position at Faith Outreach Center International (FOCI) as a youth pastor. In the summer of 1995 they began CBC for boys. CBC was intended originally for boys only. However in the summer of 1996 while Commandant Flowers was rejoicing over the success that CBC was having with the young men,the Lord spoke to his heart about young ladies. He was convinced that they needed to begin to train young ladies also and in the summer of 1997 they began training both male and female flights.
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Remember this story? A white southern Christian woman murders her preacher husband. Guess what?

The authorities have questioned Mary Winkler about the death of her preacher husband. What Winkler told them led them to charge her with first-degree murder.
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Mar. 24 2006
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Mary Winkler - The Secret Pictures

Mary having a drink and smoke at a bar in McMinnville, Tennessess.(link upper right)

Since August, Mary Winkler has lived and worked in McMinnville, Tennessee.

That's four hours away from the Selmer home where prosecutors say she shot and killed her husband Matthew last March.

We went there to see how Mary Winkler spends her days.

While there we were approached by a man who offered us cell phone pictures of Winkler that - he said -show how she spent her nights.

Many say it's behavior unbecoming of a preacher's wife.

For months, Mary Winkler has lived the life of the accused.

She's out on bond, working at a local dry cleaners.

It's just one way Winkler bides time while waiting for judgment on charges she killed her preacher husband with a shotgun blast to the back last March.

But working at Cleaners Express isn't the only way Winkler stays busy.

In the pictures featured above, you can see her bellied up to a bar, cigarette in hand and a bottle of beer in front of her.

She's seated on the left, next to the blonde. Picture after picture shows the same thing.

Luis Correa says he was shocked when he saw Winkler sitting across the bar from him and his wife.

He took the photos with his cell phone and shared them exclusively with Action News 5. "She was, you know, having a good time, with everybody in the bar," he told us.

It's a far cry from the meek widow we saw protected by her attorneys the day she bonded out of jail in McNairy County.

Winkler's been living and working in McMinnville ever since.

It's part of her pre-trial supervision and apparently it's not all work and no play.

"I think perhaps, maybe, she exercised some poor judgment," said Correa's wife Libby St. John, who recognized Winkler at the bar because she'd seen her on the front page of the paper the very same day.

It was New Year's Eve and McMinnville's most popular downtown hangout had a special guest.

"She was smoking and drinking and appeared to be pretty light-hearted," she said.

The couple left the bar around two o'clock on New Year's morning and - they say - Mary Winkler was still seated at the bar, smoking and drinking.

"I would be too upset about being separated from my children--that sort of thing--to be able to go out and celebrate in such a fashion," said Libby St. John, who adds the encounter has given her second thoughts about the woman she once pitied.

"I think it's important for other people to see who they're supporting."

Members at McMinnville's Central Church of Christ have given Winkler money while she awaits trial.

The editor of McMinnville's Southern Standard says others have given Winkler gifts and jewelry. "People seemed to have opened their arms to her, for whatever reason," said James Clark.

Luis Correa believes his cell phone pictures may change things. "I don't know if the people in the congregation still support her--but they got to know where they spend their money."

On this night - witnesses say - it was at a bar near McMinnville's town square.

We paid Luis Correa for his cell phone pictures, just as we would any other amateur photographer.

The owner of the New York Grill, where those pictures were taken, tells us Winkler has had drinks at the bar three of four times over the past few months.

A patron told us Mary Winkler celebrated her birthday there.

Winkler did sign a pre-trial supervision order, agreeing not to drink alcohol in excess or to enter an establishment that primarily sells alcoholic beverages. You can read it here.

The New York Grill is licensed as a restaurant and Winkler's probation officer says it doesn't appear she broke any rules of supervision.

She might serve 60 days...not 60 years, but 60 days! Compare that to Scott Peterson 24 hrs news coverage for two years reporting even the condition of his swimming pool and the sale of his house! And the resale of his house. He was given the Death Penalty. The Bay Area "Promise Keepers" a Christian fundamentalist cult kept that story on the front page for two years. One the other hand Mary's privacy was kept top secret all during her trial by the Police, and Courts.
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8/13/2007

A West Tennessee woman convicted of manslaughter in the shooting death of her preacher husband is expected to be released from custody this week.

Attorney Steve Farese Senior said he expects his client, Mary Winkler, to be freed either Tuesday or Wednesday from the mental health facility where she has been in treatment for about two months.

The 33-year-old Winkler was convicted of voluntary manslaughter in the 2006 fatal shooting of her husband, Matthew, at the Selmer parsonage where the couple lived.

She was given a three-year sentence on June 8th, but she was required to serve only 67 days in custody because of credit for time in jail before her trial, the nature of the offense and no previous criminal record.

McNairy County Circuit Court Judge Weber McCraw ruled that up to 60 of those 67 days could be served while confined for mental health treatment.
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PHOENIX, Arizona (AP) -- Officers responding to a report of an exorcism on a young girl found her grandfather choking her and used stun guns to subdue the man, who later died, authorities said Sunday.

The 3-year-old girl and her mother, who was also in the room during the struggle between 49-year-old Ronald Marquez and officers, were hospitalized, police said. Their condition was unavailable.

The relative who called police said an exorcism had also been attempted Thursday.

"The purpose was to release demons from this very young child," said Sgt. Joel Tranter.

Officers arrived at the house Saturday and entered when they heard screaming coming from a bedroom, Tranter said.

A bed had been pushed up against the door; the officers pushed it open a few inches and saw Marquez choking his bloodied granddaughter, who was crying in pain and gasping, Tranter said.

A bloody, naked 19-year-old woman who police later determined to be Marquez's daughter and the girl's mother was in the room, chanting "something that was religious in nature," Tranter said.

The officers forced open the door enough for one to enter, leading to a struggle in which an officer used a stun gun on Marquez, Tranter said.

After the initial stun had no visible effect, another officer squeezed into the room and stunned him. The girl was freed and passed through the door to the relative, Tranter said.

Marquez was placed in handcuffs after a struggle with officers and initially appeared normal, but then stopped breathing, Tranter said.

He could not be revived and was pronounced dead at a hospital.

The cause of death was not immediately known, and autopsy results probably will not be available for several weeks, Tranter said.

Tranter declined to identify Marquez's daughter and granddaughter but said they lived in the house with Marquez.

The mother was not arrested, but police will consider criminal charges, Tranter said.
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ROMEOVILLE | Despite prison term, preacher welcomed by Baptist congregation.
BY SUSAN HOGAN/ALBACH Religion Reporter shogan@suntimes.com
August 20, 2007

A southwest suburban Southern Baptist congregation allowed a convicted child sex offender to preach for the last few years -- despite his past, and a warning from his previous church that he might still be dangerous, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

In 1996, Jeff Hannah was sentenced to nine years in prison for having sexual relations with four underage girls -- ages 15 to 17 -- while a married youth minister at Crossroads Church in Libertyville.

Hannah was paroled in 2001 and joined the First Baptist Church of Romeoville, where his new wife was a member. Soon after, the pastor moved on, and church members -- aware of Hannah's crimes -- asked him to step into the pulpit until a replacement was hired, according to church members, Hannah and others.

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The First Baptist Church of Romeoville canceled Sunday services in the wake of the resignations including that of convicted sex offender Jeff Hannah (inset).
(Brian Jackson/Sun-Times)

Hannah served in that role for three years and ever since has been a fill-in preacher, teacher and music minister at the church.

'We believe in forgiveness'
Authorities say there's no evidence that Hannah has re-offended -- and Hannah insists he has not -- but he abruptly resigned his membership in the congregation when a reporter started inquiring about him last week.

"In our church, we believe in forgiveness," said Del Kirkpatrick, one of the deacons who hired Hannah.

In talking to the Sun-Times last week, Hannah, 42, was unapologetic about his crimes, saying his first marriage had been troubled and he'd had "urges."

"I honestly believe that had I been a college pastor, I'd slept with college girls," he said. "But I was a youth pastor. It was less about age and more about who I spent all my time with."

The Rev. Steve Farish, pastor of Crossroads Church, which has relocated to Grayslake, said he considered Hannah so dangerous that he warned the Romeoville church and a regional Southern Baptist official.

'The husband of one wife'
"We thought he could still potentially be a danger to women and children," Farish said. "He was never repentant and never told the truth."

Randie Bruno, the prosecutor in Hannah's case said, "He has the charisma to fool everybody."

But Hannah led the Romeoville church until February 2006, when the Rev. Charles Hamby, a 54-year-old divorced pastor with financial troubles, was hired. When Hamby remarried a few months later, several church members left, including Kirkpatrick.

"A pastor should be the husband of one wife," Kirkpatrick said.

Hamby, who also knew of Hannah's past, allowed him to continue as a preacher and gave him even greater leadership roles. "The man ... paid his debt to society," Hamby said.

Some in the congregation were upset by Hannah's role, but Hamby's remarriage was a bigger controversy, according to church officials. The feud bubbled over last week, when Hamby and Hannah abruptly resigned.

"I just want to live my life," Hannah said.

Activist outraged
The future of the congregation remains uncertain. Sunday worship was canceled.

With more than 16 million members, the Southern Baptist Convention is the nation's largest Protestant denomination. Each congregation is autonomous. Under pressure from victims' groups, the SBC in June pledged to examine the possibility of creating a national database of clergy predators.

Christa Brown, founder of StopBaptistPredators.org, was outraged that Hannah went from prison to the pulpit.

"When Southern Baptists put perpetrators into positions of spiritual trust again, it sends the message that this denomination doesn't care about victims," Brown said.
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Preacher, sex offender tapped another child molester for a worship role at a Romeoville church rocked by upheaval
BY SUSAN HOGAN/ALBACH Religion Reporter/shogan@suntimes.com
August 21, 2007

A second convicted sex offender was invited into a worship role at a southwest suburban Southern Baptist church, where Jeff Hannah, a multiple sex offender, had been preaching with the church's blessing since being paroled from prison in 2001, the Chicago Sun-Times has learned.

Hannah, 42, who had sexual relations with four teens while youth minister at a Lake County church, invited his neighbor, Bryan Buckley, to lead special music at a Sept. 9 celebration service at First Baptist Church in Romeoville, according to Buckley and church officials.

"I was asked to see if I was available on that date," Buckley told the Sun-Times.

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Members will decide this week the fate of First Baptist Church of Romeoville after the Rev. Charles Hamby resigned last week.
(Brian Jackson/Sun-Times)

Buckley, 38, was convicted in 1997 of four counts of criminally assaulting a 14-year-old girl over several months while a youth pastor at Christ Community Church in St. Charles. Hannah, convicted in 1996, apparently met Buckley in prison, officials said.

The two former youth ministers-turned-child molesters now live on the same Romeoville street and work for the same outdoor lighting company. Buckley isn't a member of First Baptist and attended worship sporadically, members said.

Hannah and the Rev. Charles Hamby, the church's pastor, abruptly resigned last week after the Sun-Times began asking questions. Hamby said Sunday that he saw nothing wrong with putting two child molesters into worship roles.

"We're a church that believes in grace and redemption," he said.

Christa Brown, founder of StopBaptistPredators.org, said she believes that God can change hearts, but only God can know if a person has truly changed.

"Churches shouldn't take a blind eye; the risk to kids is too great," she said.

Despite warnings about Hannah's crimes, the church tapped him to fill its pulpit full time for three years and then on a part-time basis, after Hamby, a divorced pastor, was hired in February 2006. When Hamby remarried a few months later, several church members left because of strict views about divorce.

The tension over Hamby's remarriage escalated into other battles over the church's constitution and name. Recently, Hamby led supporters to rename the church New Beginnings, which was supposed to be celebrated on Sept. 9.

But the new constitution and name change won't stand because proper procedure wasn't followed, said Dan Eddington, who heads the Three Rivers Association, a regional organization for Southern Baptist churches.

No worship was held at the church Sunday. The 20 or so remaining members will meet this week to decide whether to continue the church.

Although Southern Baptists make up the nation's largest denomination, their congregations are autonomous.

Church member Mike Allen said the months of tension had been a painful test of faith for church members.

"I hope that we'll go on," he said. "I hope that God will take all this ugliness and use it for good."
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's busy over at the Republican Family Values link with a Republican Senator playing footsies in the toilet stall...meanwhile back at the farm, more Christian pedophiles.
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Haggard, Families With a Mission, and the sex offender
by Pam Spaulding
8/25/2007

What on earth is that headline about? You'll recall that Ted Haggard, the former male escort client and meth purchaser, has started a new life in Arizona. The former head of New Life Church -- and graduate of a miraculous Dobson-approved three-week de-gaying program -- is also asking followers for a handout in a boldly insane letter (his $138K New Life severance will be cut off after the end of the year). In it he says:

Any help we can get with this will be greatly appreciated and, I believe, rewarded in heaven.

Haggard asks that checks be sent to an outfit called "Families With a Mission" in Colorado Springs with a separate note indicating the funds are for the Haggard family...

then Families With a Mission will mail us 90% of the funds for support and use 10% for administrative costs,

There's one problem. Actually several. Dan Savage at Slog passes on this mind-blowing news:

As posted earlier, local attorney and Slog reader Dave Coffman located documents on file with the Colorado Secretary of State that showed Families With a Mission "voluntarily dissolved" on February 23, 2007.

Hm. Weird -- who knew you could get a tax deduction from dissolved charity?

And it gets weirder: There's only one name on file with the Colorado Secretary of State in connection with Families With a Mission: Paul Huberty.

Huberty is the "registered agent" of Families With a Mission and the registered agent's mailing address -- POB 63125, Colorado Springs, CO 80962-3125 -- is the same address Haggard included in his letter to his supporters. Another address on file with the Colorado Secretary of State for Families With a Mission is 855 Pebble Creek Ct., Monument, CO 80132. That's the charity's "principal office mailing address."


Sigh. As with these fundie stories, you know we have not yet reached the moral values bottom of matters. Slog reader Dave Coffman did some investigating in public records and found out that Paul G. Huberty was convicted of "sodomy and indecent acts" with "a 17-year-old female who accompanied appellant and his family to Germany as his legal ward" (PDF here) while he was in the military and stationed there. When he moved to Hawaii, he had to register as a sex offender.

When Huberty left Hawaii, the forwarding address he left is -- you guessed it -- the address for the now-dissolved charity Families With a Mission.

Surf over to Slog -- there's plenty more.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Payouts for the raping,and molesting by Roman Catholic priests.

* Archdiocese of Los Angeles, 2007, agrees to pay $660 million to about 500 people.
* Diocese of Orange, Calif., 2004, $100 million for 90 abuse claims.
* Diocese of Covington, Ky., 2006, up to $84 million for more than 350 people.
* Archdiocese of Boston, 2003, $84 million for 552 claims.
* Diocese of Oakland, Calif., 2005, $56 million to 56 people.
* Archdiocese of Portland, Ore., 2007, agrees to pay about $52 million to 175 victims to emerge from bankruptcy protection. The diocese sets aside another $20 million for any future claims.
* Diocese of Spokane, Wash., 2007, agrees to pay $48 million for about 150 claims to emerge from bankruptcy protection.
* Diocese of Sacramento, Calif., 2005, pays $35 million to 33 people.
* Archdiocese of Louisville, Ky., 2003, $25.7 million to 243 victims.
* Diocese of Tucson, Ariz., 2005, agrees to fund a settlement trust worth about $22 million for more than 50 victims to emerge from bankruptcy protection.

That is 2199 victims for the Catholic Church, not a fundamentalist church, but a strong Republican supporter.
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