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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:08 pm    Post subject: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

Mitt Romney's campaign criticized the group that brought to light the fact that he paid 15% in taxes on 20 million dollars - a much lower percentage than most low wage earners. The Romney campaign called the group liberally biased. HOW dare they criticize greed!!!! It's UNAMERICAN!!!! Can't a man exploit a monetary system in PEACE???? What has this world come to??? You liberals need to just sit back on your poor butts and be happy that you live in a country where you are exploited. Take your place in Pottersville and like it!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pottersville always seemed like a hell of a lot more fun than the moral certitude of Blandsville Falls.
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But the houses in Pottersville were junky. Small one room shacks with an outhouse attached. Can't spend too much on worthless humans.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:43 am    Post subject: HOW dare they criticize greed! Reply with quote

I will criticize greed. The greed of the left is really envy and arrogance based. The left is often greedy when they want "a fair wage", regardless of the lack of skill and initiative a person may have. Like Teddy Kennedy demanded on the Senate floor. I heard him squeal like a baby during his rants. Did Teddy give up his trust fund? What about Robert Kennedy Jr. He preaches to everyone else yet he and the rest of the Kennedy clan live off of their trust funds. All of the Kennedy pay 15% on their trust fund income. Teddy was the guy who preached giving the lower income Americans a living wage. How much did the “Hero of Chappaquiddick” personally give or advocate the Kennedy clan give up their trust funds and give assets to the poor? Teddy was good in advocating spending other people’s income (life energy). Romney nailed him in their debate when Romney asked Teddy why he didn’t provide health care for employees of his family business. Poor Teddy, he wished he had a Gin and Tonic when he mumbled something incoherent. The left should stop thinking THEY know what the rich should do/pay. The left also think they know what is best for the non-rich. Envy and arrogance can falsely inflate a Leftist’s ego and since of superiority. Enough said for now. Enjoy!
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Say what you want, at least the Kennedys tried to raise the standard of living for most Americans, not just the top half a percent. As far as not working for your money, tell that to the people in the 19th and early 20th century that died on their jobs from poor - unsafe working condition, long hours, and lack of decent pay - or maybe sweat shops are a good thing? They just deserved what they got right? Most American's feel that way because for the last 30 years they keep voting morons back into office who keep weakening labor laws. Yes, let's return to the grand ole' days of yesteryear when smoking was touted as a healthy thing to do. Get me one of Rush's cigars. Oh and lest we forget that we live in a Christian nation and should make that the law of the land. Only problem is, what religion should run it? The Pope? Pat Robertson? The Mormons? Wait, how did I go from Mitt's Money to religious nonsense? Because the right wing/libertarian/republicans defend these things. The umbrella of goofiness and idiocy is very wide for the right wing. And if you call yourself a libertarian, that only means you don't want to pay any taxes and you can disavow all the dark sides of the right wing or republicans - but you still vote for them. Sorry if I don't feel the same way you do about the Kennedys failing to provide proper health care for their employees, assuming that is true. Civil rights, Medicare and Education are what I remember the Kennedy's proposing and passing for our country.
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Say what you will about Joe Kennedy, but people like Prescot Bush, Henry Ford, The Rockafeller Family. All those weathy bastards back then, wouldn't let Joe into their nest of vipers, BECAUSE HE WAS CATHOLIC.

The father of the Koch Brothers tried to do the same thing to JFK in the 1960 election with his John Bitch, sorry, I meant Birch Society. Tried to keep John out of the WH that is.

Ed Koch has the same name, I think he's Jewish though, somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that. He says it differently though. The John Bitch, oh damn, I meant Birch agaian say their name the proper German way. Twisted Evil

Now they're trying to get the first BLACK MAN out of the WH. They think it's beneath the country, or as they would gleefully say, FATHERLAND!
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mdbl wrote:
HOW dare they criticize greed!!!! It's UNAMERICAN!!!!


I find that statement to be accurate. (no sarcasm)
"Greed", as an oversimplifacation, has a history in America long and wide. It seems to me to be an american value if there is such a thing.
Having a trust fund does not make one greedy unless the definition of greed changed fundamentally. Setting up a trust fund for your grandchildren does not make you a greedy person either. I don't really find any logic to a Kennedy being automatically greedy because their grandfather set up a trust fund or not giving away a trust fund is greedy. Wanting a subsisent living is greedy as well as envious and arrogant? I don't think anything less than Siddhartha qualifies as greedy.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:25 pm    Post subject: Re: HOW dare they criticize greed! Reply with quote

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I will criticize greed. The greed of the left is really envy and arrogance based. The left is often greedy when they want "a fair wage", regardless of the lack of skill and initiative a person may have. Like Teddy Kennedy demanded on the Senate floor. I heard him squeal like a baby during his rants. Did Teddy give up his trust fund? What about Robert Kennedy Jr. He preaches to everyone else yet he and the rest of the Kennedy clan live off of their trust funds. All of the Kennedy pay 15% on their trust fund income. Teddy was the guy who preached giving the lower income Americans a living wage. How much did the “Hero of Chappaquiddick” personally give or advocate the Kennedy clan give up their trust funds and give assets to the poor? Teddy was good in advocating spending other people’s income (life energy). Romney nailed him in their debate when Romney asked Teddy why he didn’t provide health care for employees of his family business. Poor Teddy, he wished he had a Gin and Tonic when he mumbled something incoherent. The left should stop thinking THEY know what the rich should do/pay. The left also think they know what is best for the non-rich. Envy and Programarrogance can falsely inflate a Leftist’s ego and since of superiority. Enough. said for now. Enjoy!
Proginor, the left isn't about envy and arrogance, it's about fairness and doing what is right, just like the bible that so many of you right wingers say you live by! The wealthy need to pay their fair share of taxes and so do corporations. If you want to be an American company but ship your factories overseas to exploit the cheap labor of desperate people,then go ahead and denounce your U S citizenship. If your not willing to do that, then America needs to tax the hell out of your products cause (that's) what's good for America. The wealthy like your beloved mittster, need to quit hiding their wealth overseas and manipulating loopholes to avoid paying taxes cause (that's) good for America. If you think and say you're a good American, then you want to do what's good for America don't you? Employees do the work that make their employers wealthy, so why shouldn't they be rewarded with a living wage, or better? That's good for America! There's only so much money in the USA , and the wealthy are getting more and more of it all the time . The wealthiest hide it in tax havens offshore and then bribe the U S into letting them bring it back at 5% or less ! Is that right,or fair? I think not! Look at any third world country, and see what it looks like when all the wealth is in the hands of a very few, and everyone else is dirt poor. Is that what you want for this country? That's what the right wingers want, and you rethuglicons are all helping them right along ! You'll probably never see the light , cause you tighten gets ever do. Now that's a damn shame! Welcome to the message board and keep reading. Maybe a little nugget of sense will creap into your head and grow. You could only be so lucky !
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Surprised that a guy in Oregon is obsessing about the Kennedy clan, lo this many years later - long enough to have the things you are complaining about, were they automobiles, antiques. I mean I could understand obsessing about what the Bush Crime Family did and is doing, but the Kennedys? Were you a "recent arrival" in Oregon, from Hyannis? If so, what were you fleeing from? The health care mandate?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:32 pm    Post subject: Re: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

mdbl wrote:
Mitt Romney's campaign criticized the group that brought to light the fact that he paid 15% in taxes on 20 million dollars - a much lower percentage than most low wage earners.


Most, if not all low wage earners paid zero federal income tax. Almost 50% of the earners in America pay no federal income tax at all.

The top 20% of earners pay 80% of the income tax collected by the federal government.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:12 am    Post subject: Re: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

tahuyaman wrote:
mdbl wrote:
Mitt Romney's campaign criticized the group that brought to light the fact that he paid 15% in taxes on 20 million dollars - a much lower percentage than most low wage earners.


Most, if not all low wage earners paid zero federal income tax. Almost 50% of the earners in America pay no federal income tax at all.

The top 20% of earners pay 80% of the income tax collected by the federal government.


Really? My pay stub says different every week. Funny how that works.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

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The top 20% of earners pay 80% of the income tax collected by the federal government.


Please source your stats so we can analyze them.
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We might need more of this stuff again.
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It's hard to pay federal taxes when your making poverty level income. That's the progressive tax system. The more you make the more you pay! Ask Ronald Reagan why he came up with the earned income credit. If he was honest with you he'd say, so people will be willing to work for very low wages, and to keep my beloved business owners from having to pay a higher wage! That's the rethuglicon way. Pass the cost of business on to the tax payers
( the old middle class) ! The reason the very rich pay the majority of taxes, but not as much as they should, is because they have all the money! The pie is only SO large, and their piece keeps getting bigger and bigger! Is that simple enough for you? Tahuyaman. At least on this site, you will find answers to your stupid questions, and can actually learn something if your willing to absorb. The times I've gone on rightwing sites , and spoke nicely but had an opposing view, they have always kicked me off immediately! Go figure? The right hates people who don't think like they do regardless of what's true and what's not! The right fears the truth! All they know is to Goethe line, regardless! Pathetic!
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

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tahuyaman wrote:

The top 20% of earners pay 80% of the income tax collected by the federal government.


Please source your stats so we can analyze them.


The IRS......
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The article in the Wall Street Journal is loaded with facts pertaining to who pays the federal income tax in America.

I know how you "progressives" love facts......http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444873204577537250318931044.html By ARI FLEISCHER

If fairness in paying taxes means the amount you pay is based on the amount you make, then the only group in America paying at least a "fair share" is the top 20%—people who make more than $74,000. For everyone else, the tax code is a bargain......
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The article in the Wall Street Journal is loaded with facts pertaining to who pays the federal income tax in America.

I know how you "progressives" love facts......http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444873204577537250318931044.html By ARI FLEISCHER

If fairness in paying taxes means the amount you pay is based on the amount you make, then the only group in America paying at least a "fair share" is the top 20%—people who make more than $74,000. For everyone else, the tax code is a bargain......
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It's obvious that facts disturb you. Just disagreeing with, or wishing facts to be undone doesn't make it so.

No one is more despicable to a liberal than someone who has a grasp of the facts.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: You liberal pigs, how can you? Reply with quote

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Really? My pay stub says different every week. Funny how that works.


Ever heard of a tax refund?. You see, the money is confiscated from you every pay-day and you can obtain a refund later. Specifically on April 15th of every year. You really shouldn't need to be told this.

Of course if you are in the top 50% of earners you generally get no refund, or as in my case need to pay more.
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